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~Introduction~
Lately I've started to notice how certain things annoy me more than they used to, while in Chat. Some others, I realize there are some "unsaid" guidelines that most chatters respect, but not many know or understand. I guess it's just a matter of being a regular.
~Chat etiquette~
More like chat for noobs and do's and do not's lol. If you know me, you'll know I'm a chat regular - more like a chat preset haha. No matter the time of the day, I'll be there blabbing my brains out. What can I say, I like talking. I will say I now consider myself as a chat "old timer" even if they've only been a couple of months. I've learned quite a lot believe it or not; hence this, I'd like to share a few of my thoughts and chat experiences with you all ;]
~Self-promoting is NOT cool. Also know as self-posting, this is when you post your listings on the side bar for everyone to look. I do understand some of you might don't see the wrong in it - I really don't either, but it's considered as rude by most chatters. Think of it this way, you have an awesome product you want everyone to see. What would be more fulfilling ? Posting yourself and watching it go by unnoticed or have someone else post it because they truly liked it ? I'm not a seller, but it's hard not to see the smart logical choice.
~Politics and religion; only for the strong minded. These two are probably the trickiest, toughest topics in the chatting world. There will be always someone in disagreement. And don't get me wrong, I've had many political and religious talks, but it's a bit ridiculous when you try knocking Jesus into my head via hitting me with a bible or something. I will listen to your beliefs and remain quiet, but don't try to mess with my own or someone else's, that's just a great no no.
~Team is win. There will always be people with friends in the same room. I mean, come on. Whenever I see vireo or LatherbyLinds in a room I'll patiently wait for a spot to clear up so I can enter the same room, it's only logical right ? You really can't expect to start an argument in a room over whatever and get away with it unscathed, there is always someone to back you, or the other person, up. Word of advice, if you're going to start crap, try to do it in a place where you'll get support. Fight a battle that will be worth it, don't just come PMS into chat.
~Chatting, cheaper than a shrink. On the note above, you can try and come to chat to argue, but it's better to try and vent. I've lost count of how many times a room has gone quiet, thoughtful and understanding when someone comes in to vent. Most of us, chat regulars, are often there cheering and whining about daily happenings. We will have deep and trivial talks, and you can always go there for general advice, shop critique and to clear a doubt, ask away.
~Canned meat products ? No baby, spam. Seriously, don't do it. I might come off as hypocritical on this one, but spamming the chat with links, sales and bold text will rapidly annoy the room and make you target of remarks. I know I link to my blog often and even do outraging font sizing and coloring, but I try to make it in timely and not obnoxious manners. Posting the same text over and over again will get tiring, and sooner or later you'll make it to the "annoying people" talk. It's a hot topic in chat, and you should be afraid to be on that list if you plan to stick around.
As of today I have been part of many arguments, hilarious talks, late night chats and games. Etsy chat is just a very nice and welcoming place as far as you don't overwork yourself and the rest in the room. You'll learn to love it, we don't bite too hard ;]
~Chat etiquette~
~Self-promoting is NOT cool. Also know as self-posting, this is when you post your listings on the side bar for everyone to look. I do understand some of you might don't see the wrong in it - I really don't either, but it's considered as rude by most chatters. Think of it this way, you have an awesome product you want everyone to see. What would be more fulfilling ? Posting yourself and watching it go by unnoticed or have someone else post it because they truly liked it ? I'm not a seller, but it's hard not to see the smart logical choice.
~Politics and religion; only for the strong minded. These two are probably the trickiest, toughest topics in the chatting world. There will be always someone in disagreement. And don't get me wrong, I've had many political and religious talks, but it's a bit ridiculous when you try knocking Jesus into my head via hitting me with a bible or something. I will listen to your beliefs and remain quiet, but don't try to mess with my own or someone else's, that's just a great no no.
~Team is win. There will always be people with friends in the same room. I mean, come on. Whenever I see vireo or LatherbyLinds in a room I'll patiently wait for a spot to clear up so I can enter the same room, it's only logical right ? You really can't expect to start an argument in a room over whatever and get away with it unscathed, there is always someone to back you, or the other person, up. Word of advice, if you're going to start crap, try to do it in a place where you'll get support. Fight a battle that will be worth it, don't just come PMS into chat.
~Chatting, cheaper than a shrink. On the note above, you can try and come to chat to argue, but it's better to try and vent. I've lost count of how many times a room has gone quiet, thoughtful and understanding when someone comes in to vent. Most of us, chat regulars, are often there cheering and whining about daily happenings. We will have deep and trivial talks, and you can always go there for general advice, shop critique and to clear a doubt, ask away.
~Canned meat products ? No baby, spam. Seriously, don't do it. I might come off as hypocritical on this one, but spamming the chat with links, sales and bold text will rapidly annoy the room and make you target of remarks. I know I link to my blog often and even do outraging font sizing and coloring, but I try to make it in timely and not obnoxious manners. Posting the same text over and over again will get tiring, and sooner or later you'll make it to the "annoying people" talk. It's a hot topic in chat, and you should be afraid to be on that list if you plan to stick around.
As of today I have been part of many arguments, hilarious talks, late night chats and games. Etsy chat is just a very nice and welcoming place as far as you don't overwork yourself and the rest in the room. You'll learn to love it, we don't bite too hard ;]
Mesha♥
12 thoughts - leave yours !:
Very nice Mesha! Love it!
Love,
Maa
wise beyone your years my dear lol
obviously i need coffee lol
*PMS all in your blog* >:o
Great post.:3
*leaves pets for Elenor* :D Happy she arrived before you had to leave for VACAAAAAY. :3
Hm... There is definitely unsaid chat etiquette. Pretty much if something annoys you, don't do it to others.
There are times where it is appropriate to post your own things on the side. It's always rude, however, to only post yours and to post your own very frequently.
I think chatters should always act as if they are speaking to a room of clients-to-be. Would you want to annoy your clients? Would you want to start fights, rage on about a topic... That just isn't professional at all. Being annoying doesn't sell your items. I'm not the best at being professional in chat, especially when my friends are in there... but still.
My biggest chat pet peeve are those who think that what they have to say is much more important than anyone elses so they bold everything they say!. I always think it's quite insulting to try to take the attention from others. It's a chat, not a screaming session.
On that note, I've been chatting on etsy for about 3 years now. It's the only chat room that I've ever seen on the internet that is so chill.. I love it.
See you there, Mesha!
hey mesha! Great way to put it! It can definitely get a little crazy in the chat rooms from time to time. Hmmm - I feel the need to chat now! I'm coming in - watch out! :)
Great blog post and so true! Wish i was more interactive in the chats D: i usually am like... hmm... i have nothing to say... D=
Your Awesome Mesha!! ;-)
Jenny
Oh Mesha!
I patiently wait to get in the chats I see you and others in :D Conversations in the chatrooms are interesting to say the least! Your always full of good advice! Your chatroom Chat etiquette was very nicely put... and I think everyone should put those rules to good use! :D
xoxo Michelley
Very well put. Although I have never put my own items in the side bar I have posted that I'm having a sale. How else would anyone know? Being on etsy for over a year now and following all the rules and ideas for getting your product seen and sold it can get frustrating when you haven't sold. It's almost impossible to not occassionally self promote. However I am a regular shopper and promoter of other etsy store owners.
Love it! Well thought out!!
great mesha! you said, in chat, that you needed to write etiquette for chat rooms, and so you did! very well put! hopefully your friend will see this (if you know who i'm talking about). lol.
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